I am repairing an art project that some of the control system was lost, so I’m recreating the lost bits. It will consist of 2 dual relays, one M1000 hub and an H2 four button controller.
I have seen people say that once it is set up if the internet goes down, everything still works, but no info can I find that says what happens if the Access point goes away.
So, do I also need to add an access point to the system?
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The M100 hub (Zigbee/Thread, also works as Matter Controller/Thread Border Router). So your setup — H2 switch and relays as Zigbee sub-devices — is what it’s built for.
Zigbee is a local mesh, not WiFi-based. Once everything’s paired and the automation’s built on the hub itself, a button press shouldn’t need an AP in the room to reach the relay.
I perused the manual and it doesn’t say whether the M100 is fine running indefinitely with zero WiFi ever, vs. just tolerating a temporary outage — it only documents WiFi as required for setup. Since this is a permanent install, I’d test it: pair everything with an AP present, then pull the AP and run it a few days. Make sure response stays the same.
One more thing worth flagging: firmware updates need actual internet access to reach Aqara’s servers, not just a local AP for device pairing. If you run this fully AP-less forever, the M100 will be frozen on whatever firmware it has at final setup.
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Depending on the hub. Some hubs support locally run automations, some will need the cloud to run the automations.
Check the label next to your automations. If it says “local”, then your hub does not need WiFi/internet to work.
You can also open the automation, click three dots and “Automation Type” to check if it’s run locally.
I have the Hub M3 and almost all my automations are local.
Mind you, if you have poor internet (WiFi connection is present, but the internet is barely working), then some automations may still work poorly/with a delay, because the hub will try to update the current state/settings of your devices in the cloud while running the automation. But when the internet is disconnected, the automations will work without any problem.
Another thing: some devices (like the FP2) are WiFi only. Disabling the WiFi means that it will lose connection to the hub (the sensor doesn’t need the cloud to work, it just uses WiFi as only communication protocol)
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Thanks for sharing the local automation piece. All of my automation are in HA so that was a new one for me.
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